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the foods i feed rays are 98% all freshwater based foods... Potamotrygon comes from fresh water so obviously they eat fresh water foods...
Shrimp is my main diet Pellets are next or first depends on my mood that week pellets are mixed hikari i feed carnivor massivore and sinking algea wafers for something different
i also feed silversides and smelts(i try for freshwater smelts when ever possible... freshwater clams scallops (usually i raise them for awhile) i also raised my own live shrimps and gut loaded them on pellets and would feed at will( really stimulates the rays just size the shrimps to the rays)
i have fed squid as a treat as well... lots of people will feed tilapia and other fish fillets my theory comes back to the whole fresh water salt water deal..
worms are also a big food for alot of people... me i use them short term and move on to other foods...
Blacks worms and red wigglers are great for small young rays then you have night crawlers african night crawlers are great food source but get very expensive... me i prefer prepared foods as it keeps life more easy
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Thanks for that. So what do other people feed their Rays?
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Yea cheers for that nic,
I use hikari massivore, sinking wafers and Cichlid bio gold (sinking pellets). I mix it up between them.
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one thing to consider when buy seafood for your fish.... IF YOU WOULD NOT EAT IT DONT FEED IT TO THEM...
my rays always got fresh quality food...
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Nic wrote: lots of people will feed tilapia and other fish fillets my theory comes back to the whole fresh water salt water deal..
Tilapia are freshwater fish. They are known to tolerate high levels of salt but are in fact African cichlids. I breed Oreochromis Mossambicus as a food source for my ray. I believe in a 100% freshwater diet.
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Paratrygon wrote:Nic wrote: lots of people will feed tilapia and other fish fillets my theory comes back to the whole fresh water salt water deal..
Tilapia are freshwater fish. They are known to tolerate high levels of salt but are in fact African cichlids. I breed Oreochromis Mossambicus as a food source for my ray. I believe in a 100% freshwater diet. could have just used your MFK name ;) most tilapia fillets by me say raised in salt water... so i base it off of that ;)
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Tilapia fillets would be great. Freshwater fish hey, not marine?
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P14 wrote:Tilapia fillets would be great. Freshwater fish hey, not marine? Yes, they are freshwater fish. The species I breed is Tilapia(Oreochromis Mossambicus). Oreochromis mossambicus is an African cichlid and is found in a variety of areas including Lake Tanganyika and Lake Victoria. If you've ever had Tilapia at your favorite seafood restaurant, Oreochromis mossambicus is the fish you ate! They are incredibly prolific. It will breed even in poor conditions. Even when food is low or nearly unavailable, this fish will continue to breed. It starts to breed at only two inches! They are also very hardy and can tolerate levels of salinity equal to that of the ocean. It eats just about anything including algae and detritus thus exploiting a food resource not used by most native fishes. I am surprised that no one has tapped into this wonderful food source for rays before. The fillets are cheap and readily available but I am sure rays would much rather eat live juvenile Tilpia instead.
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Yes I know about Tilapia as Ive kept the Oreochromis mossambicus. It is noxious and considered vermon here and would never be found on a dinner plate here. Like eating Carp Then again if the Rays love it, maybe theres something there for all to enjoy
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Paratrygon wrote:P14 wrote:Tilapia fillets would be great. Freshwater fish hey, not marine? Yes, they are freshwater fish. The species I breed is Tilapia(Oreochromis Mossambicus). Oreochromis mossambicus is an African cichlid and is found in a variety of areas including Lake Tanganyika and Lake Victoria. If you've ever had Tilapia at your favorite seafood restaurant, Oreochromis mossambicus is the fish you ate! They are incredibly prolific. It will breed even in poor conditions. Even when food is low or nearly unavailable, this fish will continue to breed. It starts to breed at only two inches! They are also very hardy and can tolerate levels of salinity equal to that of the ocean. It eats just about anything including algae and detritus thus exploiting a food resource not used by most native fishes. I am surprised that no one has tapped into this wonderful food source for rays before. The fillets are cheap and readily available but I am sure rays would much rather eat live juvenile Tilpia instead. if you look the world over... some breeders have special mixes but the most widely used food is shrimp and pellets... most people rather stick with what works and keep it simple...
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I to use Tilapia, Freshwater muscles. My understanding that most Tilapia in the US is raised in Farm ponds in the southern states of US just like catfish. I guess I will read the packages to be sure. I also use earthworms and Market Prawn, but where do you get freshwater prawns? Are you speaking of ghost shrimp or some other type?
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ShadowStryder wrote:I to use Tilapia, Freshwater muscles. My understanding that most Tilapia in the US is raised in Farm ponds in the southern states of US just like catfish. This is very true. Most are actually grown on large Aquaponics farms.
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i go buy what my fish mongers tell me... they say salt i dont buy... i know they are basically fresh... but they say salt i walk away... plus id rather not deal with fillets... shrimps are easier and just as good
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sorry to be off topic but does anyone know where to get any Tilapia in Australia. i got a spotted gar who is eating his body weight in feeders... and they charge a mint here for them. drop me a pm if you know anything. (looking to breed low maintenance stuff)
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Plenty in Queensland.
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plenty inside paddy's markets at Haymarket in the fish market.
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Hi guys, will feeding pellet cause the white spot of the PDR turn yellowish? Mine a bit yellowish. Thanks...
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from what i have heard, some just turn yellow some stay white.
U cant beet quality pellets for nutritional value, so i wouldn't stop using them or anything.
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Thanks bro, Luckily saw the center of the spot turning a bit whitish already. Hopefully, turn full white soon...
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